(not my image. I just find these comical and incredibly dangerous)
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Swangas are among the most fucked up modifications you can do with your car. It’s literally not just a “fuck you” to other road users but actively hostile to everyone around you.
Just reflect for a moment what kind of culture can be so deeply submerged in toxic displays of hostility as a form of “swag”, “coolness” or “masculinity” as to create something like that. How insecure do you have to be?
New term for me. Looking it up, found this though.
I’m okay with this. Gotta appreciate the creativity.
Zooming in, appears to be tinfoil and cardboard… So, much like those caterpillars that mimic a snakes head, it’s a false protective threat display. Wise technique if you have to ride a bike in traffic with assholes rolling real swangas.
They aren’t. There might be places with shitty cops that tolerate them. (Quick search shows this is mostly a Texas thing)
They aren’t.
Confidently incorrect. Maybe they’re illegal some places, but definitely not most places. In Texas, they’re not illegal, but it can be illegal if they make your vehicle more than 8 feet wide. Since they’re usually on sedans, they usually don’t hit 8 feet.
Also they’re more specifically a thing in Black culture in Houston. I see them pretty rarely in other Texas cities
Americans proving their inability to understand their country isn’t the world just never stops.
You’d ever only see these in the US, it doesn’t matter if they’re specifically illegal elsewhere because it just doesn’t happen (on normal roads, outside very rare shows etc.).
It’s so fucking tiring not being able to get away from 'Muricans like you who are so deep into their own shit that you’re unable to even start to understand anything else.Welcome to a post about the US on an US-based instance. Feel free to continue acting like a total asshole
What’s US-based about fuckcars? Most posts here are not about or from the US.
Maybe they are legal in a few places. There is more places in the world than just a couple of US states.
I’d be interested to hear where they’re illegal and what that law says
Edit: Coming back to this, just looked into EU regulations and it’s clear these are not outright prohibited, as the laws related to hubcaps focus only on fitment and detachment risk. However, most EU countries require non-OEM parts to receive government approval prior to hitting the market, almost certainly ensuring nothing like this would ever be sold there.
Coming back to this, just looked into EU regulations and it’s clear these are not outright prohibited
No law expert either but the pointy figurines people put on the hub front in the 70s? They are illegal; not specifically but by endangering all the other participants on the street. Bet wheel spikes fall under the same rules.
Btw, this is something i observed recently: US tends to make rules reactively and case-specific, which is why it needs to also define wrong-doing or not specifically (“don’t dry your hamster in the microwave” warning label). While europe countries try to abstract general rules, just like in this case. I think the second approach works better for a healthy society.
Australia, can’t protrude past the factory wheel arches. Also, a trailer can’t be wider than the vehicle towing it.
, just looked into EU regulations and it’s clear these are not outright prohibited
I don’t even know what are we talking about here. I’m 1000% sure you would not be able to drive more than 100m with rims like that in Europe. Someone would immediately call the caps and they would immediately immobilize the car and send the driver to jail.
In Germany for example this is so unthinkable it’s like somebody saying “tell me the law that says I can’t steal vegetables from the super market”. Please do your own research, some things just are illegal without me needing to cite a law.
My thoughts exactly. “Show a me law that says I can’t attach two giant swords on each side of my car that will cut in half everyone that I pass by close enough. I’m sure you can’t”. American mind is sometimes hard to comprehend.
“It’s illegal because obviously”
You should become an attorney
Even Texas has unsafe protrusions rule, but a cop would have to enforce it. No part of the vehical can endanger pedestrians.
It’s illegal because it endangers other people. People on bicycles, motorcycles or on foot are particularly vulnerable. People don’t expect literal whisks to stick out from the wheels of a car.
Without even knowing which law regulating vehicle specifications is violated, I am positive that the German §1 (2) StVO is already violated:
Anyone participating in traffic must conduct themselves in such a way that no other person is harmed, endangered, or hindered or inconvenienced more than is unavoidable under the circumstances.
Every single European country. No moving part of a car can extend beyond the fixed bodywork. Even “open wheel” cars have to have the top 180 degrees of tyre covered.
I’m reading something different in the EU, that only the tire treads can’t extend beyond the car body
“It is unlawful to attach stupid dangerous bullshit to your vehicle.”
what? they are a pedestrian hazard, how would these not be illegal in every state?
Simple, make your city unwalkable. Pedestrians are no longer a concern. Anyone dumb enough to be a pedestrian deserves it.
Obvious /s is obvious
I refuse to believe that america is a real place
America is fine, as long as you steer clear of the United States.
See also
- Scythed chariot – An ancient, military counterpart
Oh that’s easy! They’re not :)
Cite the law
common sense?
But seriously, nothing can stick out beyond the body of the car (expect mirrors), not even wheels.
Edit: After checking the laws says the fender has to cover the tire to prevent splashing so it may not apply to rims like that. So back to common sense
nothing can stick out beyond the body of the car (expect mirrors), not even wheels.
That might be true for civilised countries.
But then it’s also the main reason why cars brought over by US military staff fail the inspection for road worthiness here.
Not a law.
I am not a lawyer but EU Regulation No 1009/2010 on type approval requirements for wheel guards states:
2.1.1. In the part formed by radial planes at an angle of 30° towards the front and 50° towards the rear of the centre of the wheels (see Figure 1), the overall width (q) of the wheel guard shall be at least sufficient to cover the total tyre width (b) taking into account the tyre envelope as well as the extremes of the tyre/wheel combination(s) as specified by the manufacturer. In the case of twin wheels, the tyre envelopes and total width over the two tyres (t) shall be taken into account.
In short: Nothing is allowed to extend beyond the wheel guards. Now, look at the image above again.
Deviating materially from the type approval makes your car not street legal as far as I understand. But this is a matter for a lawyer. Surely there is a reason why these psychopathic car mods are impossible to find in all of the EU on public roads.
Well written! But it misses my point entirely.
Common sense is not a law.
I did not quote “common sense” I quoted relevant law. If you want a full legal analysis rather than seeing relevant law, you need to pay a lawyer.
Then you replied to the wrong person. I didn’t ask for a law citation :)
I hope they like insurance claims
