Can’t it be both?
That’s the dream
I’ve genuinely never seen that kind of behavior from leftists in the US.
At the end of the day, all of us want to make the world we live in a bit better. And things can improve, especially if we build community.
But you’re giving the same energy as Andrew Tate and other manfluencers.
I’ve genuinely never seen that kind of behavior from leftists in the US.
Probably because you’d only ever seen patriotic socialist before joining Lemmy, and not international, anti-imperialist socialists.
But you’re giving the same energy as Andrew Tate and other manfluencers.
Make this make sense. Andrew Tate is even more America first than patsocs are, while we reject imperial core patriotism altogether.
When I compared you to Tate and other manfluencers, I was comparing your energy to his, as well as I was comparing your drive to create division.
America is in a pretty dark place right now. We can only make incremental changes until a enough of us our ready to make revolutionary changes - otherwise, those changes would have been made. There’s only enough energy for us to fight our battles. And only so much any one person can do.
Ultimately, I’d like to see a global community where everyone is thriving, and no one’s labor is being exploited. We get there together. I’m not sure what country you’re in, but I’ve seen a lot shifting right in recent years, subtly and incrementally. If you’re in one of those countries, I hope you fight back against it sooner than we did (or will).
I was comparing your energy to his
You’re comparing misogynist/transmisogynist energy to that of a feminists & trans allies? Again, make it make sense.
I was comparing your drive to create division.

What I & others are trying to do is educate & agitate for real change, not to sheepdog people back to bourgeois democracy as the end-all be-all, nor to vote Blue no matter who[1], which we know won’t work. We didn’t get women’s suffrage or the forty hour work week through the ballot box, but through militant action, through strike action.
We get there together.
We don’t actually, at least not all at the same time. Some states will get there sooner than others. The imperial core, where you & I live, certainly won’t be the vanguard for change, in fact they’re the biggest obstacle.
Previously: Unless you live in a swing state, it costs nothing to vote left of genocide. There is no downside, and it may make the Democratic party sweat enough to move slightly left. The party isn’t going to move left if they know you’ll always vote blue no matter who: all that does is make you a reliable and politically irrelevant punching bag. ↩︎
Him not doing anything about the NYPD is one of reasons people are upset. Of course they’re rather deflect away from that to just attack the protesters
How did NYPD even “protect” ICE ? Of course they had to show up on the scene after the Gestapo shot some people…
They cleared out protesters so ICE could abduct the man from a hospital.
It’s like being a the outside guard at a bank robbery.
If the man was abducted from a hospital how did he get shot in a car later on?
I’m not pro-ICE, but you guys are making it really easy for someone to call bullshit on your claims. Which is not good…
The issue is you don’t know what happened.
He was shot in his car and he was immediately taken to the hospital. He was stopped from dying only to be abducted and transferred to an ICE facility with far worse medical care capabilities.
True. Then that should be the main information. I can then make up my own mind, instead of someone just randomly telling me their opinion with minimal context.
Maybe you should’ve done the bare minimum research to know what was being talked about before inserting yourself into a meta commentary about the event. No investigation, no right to speak.
I’m not pro-ICE, but
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The irony…
Imagine questioning if those racist thugs, guilty of murdering minorities for decades would help ICE.




