As the baby boomer bubble pushes into its eighties, we are driving into a demographic wall.

  • VeganPizza69 Ⓥ@lemmy.vg
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    9 hours ago

    This seems like stochastic terrorism combined with impunity.

    It is kind of fascinating how the generational war is so lopsided. The peaceful solution, since they refuse change, is to flee and to abandon.

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    Interesting, I am one of those boomers. my insurance runs out Monday and I am selling my vehicle. This is by choice as I am going blind. I absolutely refuse to be one of those old farts that kills people by driving because they want a pack of smokes or some candy.

    My scooter arrives in 2 weeks. I already have my pirate flag, and lots of cool stickers ready for it.

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      No… the boomers were born and it was already that way. Could you please re-evaluate your knee-jerk hatred and maybe get some historical understanding? When was the car invented? When were highways built? How old were the boomers then?

      JFC

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        Car centrism didn’t happen instantaneously after WWII. it was strongest in the 70s and 80s. It’s still strong now we just build it better.

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        We bulldozed the cities to make way for cars. Boomers built car centric cities and voted for car centric infrastructure despite all evidence showing this was a really bad idea. Instead of improving public transport, they elected to add more lanes and remove aidewalks to the tune of millions or billions. Every time. Again and again. Through the entire US and honestly, world

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          Yeah those Boomers really were the ones voting for redlining, the Eisenhower Interstate system, and bulldozing minority neighborhoods for freeways. Sure were a lot of Boomers running things in the 50s and 60s when these were at their height…

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    70 million boomers maybe, but a lot of boomers drive just fine. My mom is a safe driver. My dad is too old (83) to be a boomer and he should not be driving.

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    If we had robust public transport for everyone, this wouldnt be as big an issue.

    Dont forget that it is not generation vs generation, its the 1% vs the working class.

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      9 hours ago

      I love it in when so called leftists ignore the huge petite bourgeoisie class that has voted for more and freer capitalism for decades. Sure, just ignore class traitors. I’m sure it will work out.

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      And a friendly reminder that boomers own far more than billionaires and as such are very much invested in the system. Your poverty allows them retirement.

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        I’m sure millenials own more than billionaires, and gen X, and gen Z once they all reach adulthood.

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        You’re not wrong but let’s start addressing wealth concentration with the trillionaire, and billionaires first. A lot of boomers may be millionaires but the difference between a million dollars and a billion dollars is a billion dollars.

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          also, let’s not forget that propaganda is most effective if you have a little bit of wealth and are afraid of losing it

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          Fact check: 1,000,000,000 - 1 ,000,000 = 999,000,000. But if you apply normal rounding rules… 😉

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    Perfect age for running a fucking country. Hire them to the US gov immediately. They’ll fit right in.

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    Good, insurance premiums are about to go up, like all of them, health, auto, death by boomer insurance…

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    My 95 year old mother in law picked me up at the airport and still goes golfing each week pushing her clubs around the golf course. I trust her than most kids on the road. However, She is much different than my 80 year old mother where the doctor took away her handicap pass because she kept hitting cars in the parking lot.

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      People don’t want to accept it, but we really should be testing drivers more frequently. We don’t, cuz car brain society, but we should.

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    At around 84, my dad caused a small fender-bender, that’s when my sister told him he had to stop driving. He couldn’t turn his head to see behind him. That sucked for my sister, because it fell on her to get him out of the house for grocery shopping, etc. She was the only one who still lived in the same state. He ended up in an assisted living home for the last two years of his life with dementia.

    Public transportation is great, but they don’t go into the suburbs. I suppose Uber and Lyft are the solution there, but my dad had no idea how to do that, he didn’t own a cell phone.

    Capitalism has been fucking us hard for over 100 years, the offenses keep piling up, and only now are people starting to realize how bad it’s gotten.

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      Capitalism

      While true, the problem is the “American Dream” urbanism, or lack thereof. Socialism would never offer such an insane waste of resources like car dependent detached housing.

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      Public transportation can absolutely go into the suburbs. In fact, I think it should. Every time they have tried to extent a tram line or set up some light rails, people protested because “not in my backyard” and “everyone will just go to the city, this place will be deserted”. Every time they actually went through, the suburb became more sought after and local commerce actually increased.

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      My dad (and his wife) are still about 10 years away from addressing the problem of needing people to drive them, but when the time comes I won’t mind pitching in driving them places. We do that currently for my wife’s grandparents, who, to their great credit, gave up driving because they knew they were getting too old; they even kept their car so that whoever was helping them drive places wouldn’t take on the expense of using their own car.

      Back to my dad and his wife, there are three of us children (six between them) within 45 minutes of them, and another two within 2 hours. Problem is they are talking about picking up and moving literally to the other coast 3,000 miles away. The sixth child (hers) lives on that coast, but still eight hours away from where they bought property.

      We’re currently in California, so they are tempted by the difference in property values, which I can see making sense on paper. Of course, it doesn’t work in reverse, once you sell in California, you can’t buy your way back in. You’ve spent that equity. And when you leave behind the entirety of your support system to save $300 per month, what’s the plan?

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      Public transportation is great, but they don’t go into the suburbs. I suppose Uber and Lyft are the solution there,

      No, not living in the suburbs is the solution here

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        Eh, probably, but it’s a lot to ask of someone in their declining years to move away from everything and everyone they know, especially if dementia is a factor. It’d be different if families stayed close, but so many older adults don’t have anyone nearby. They should be moving in with their kids. But their kids are overburdened, over scheduled and underpaid. And not all of them voted to keep it that way…but…

        Anyway it’s different from person to person, but it rarely seems to be simple.

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    This fucking terrifies me. My mom is 79, living in the most rural place ever, wtf is she gonna do when she has to give up her license? P.s. if anyone else has been in this situation what did you do?

    • Rhonda Sandtits@lemmy.sdf.org
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      My dad stopped driving at 80 but he remained living on the farm.
      If he needed to go somewhere, there was always a neighbor happy to help out.

      Dad went to the car dealership and spent $10k on a reasonably good 2nd hand car that he never drove - it would only get used if he needed someone to drive him somewhere.

      Using his own car that he pays all the running costs and maintenance on made it much more comfortable for him to ask a neighbor/friend/family for help.

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      If you live somewhere that you have to drive to take care of yourself and you can no longer drive, you can no longer take care of yourself.

      You move to where you can either take care of your self or be taken care of.

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        This is correct, but moving costs money. Which my mom doesn’t have any of, and I have little to spare. It’s going to be a big issue when she’s not able to take care of herself

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          You two should be discussing this now.

          She will need to sell her house and car and a chunk of her belongings and move in with you or on the same street or apartments or whatever. She needs to decide what to sell and what to give to whom, now while she still has her faculties and mobility.

          When you get old, you’re doing good until you aren’t and then you never are again. You two should have a plan that you can just execute.

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            Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately our relationship isn’t great and we are pretty estranged. My husband and I live in a 2 bedroom condo with one bathroom, small even for just us two and our cats. So she can’t move in with us. My sister is no contact with her. So yeah. The situation is messy.

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              Oh, well in that case let her figure it out. My parents kicked me out at 18, and at this point I wouldn’t talk to them if they attempted to reach out. I worry that they might, confronting death or needing physical daily assistance. I hope for their sake that they have whatever they need to do, planned out already.

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      There’s a few options: you drive for her, she moves into a senior community, she moves in with you – which is how it used to be – or none and a fender bender (or worse).

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      My grandma moved closer to people that could help her and where she was more mobile without a car.

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      My girlfriends grandma is 90 and she rides her e-bike almost daily. But we have some bike lanes and a grocery store is nearby.

      Maybe locally organised carpools?