• EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    15 hours ago

    Yeah because wikipedia certainly isn’t influenced by CIA and western imperialist propaganda

    • WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      11
      ·
      14 hours ago

      EVERY source is “influenced,” which is why it’s so important to diversify your sources to get a better picture of the full story. Wikipedia may not be perfect, but it does a hell of a job trying to be as impartial as is possible when humans are involved. If you still don’t trust them, that’s fine - but don’t trust your preferred side to give you the full story, either - or not try to slant the story towards propaganda to take advantage of confirmation bias for their own purposes.

      • EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        14 hours ago

        And what if it’s state media? BBC is state media. All bourgeoisie media in the west all serve capital.

        This is your media

        How did they report on the genocide in Palestine?

        • CouncilOfFriends@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          13 hours ago

          It is hilarious that you appear to have a notion of RT not serving capital. Who controls capital in Russia?

          If you’re going to pretend to be an ‘enlightened centrist’ while uncritically parotting RT then you should go look in the mirror and remove your clown outfit before attempting to converse with adults.

          • EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            12 hours ago

            If you’re going to pretend to be an ‘enlightened centrist’ while uncritically parotting RT then you should go look in the mirror and remove your clown outfit before attempting to converse with adults.

            If you were critical towards media then you wouldn’t be having such a kneejerk reaction to a Russian source while being completely silent towards the unbelievable amount of western media who are complicit in genocide. They are constantly posted everywhere in reddit or .world uncritically and you never see such a kneejerk reaction to those sources.

            Do some introspection and stop talking like a redditor.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            13 hours ago

            There’s an obvious split between capitalist factions in Russia and the rest of the West.

            RT serves Russian capital, not Western capital. Western media serves Western capital, but not Russian capital. Duh?

            • CouncilOfFriends@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              8
              ·
              12 hours ago

              No shit, Sherlock? That was the entire point of how silly it is to take the word of Russia’s state media with regard to their war of conquest in Ukraine.

              I don’t look to centrist, right-wing, or capital protective media outlets to learn about the genocide in Gaza either, because I have more than two brain cells to rub together.

              ‘Serving capital’ isn’t some abstract strawman that can handwave away literally every criticism of any media outlets. It means something specifically, in the context of the motivations for the outlet.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                8
                ·
                12 hours ago

                And yet you still assume that the narrative of “conquest” must be true, because of what you’ve been told by Western media.

                • CouncilOfFriends@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  7
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  11 hours ago

                  Please share with the class the independent journalism that would illustrate how Russia’s “special military operation” in Ukraine is justified and not simply a dick-measuring exercise for Putin.

                  You can GTFO with any dumbass memes about Nazis throwing salutes, if a decade-long war was launched against every country that has Nazis then no country would be able to get their britches on in the morning.

                  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    5
                    ·
                    11 hours ago

                    Do I need to show you the history of Western meddling in elections and color revolutions and coups? Or the Western ambition towards conquering Asia? I think those are pretty well known and speak for themselves.

                    With that history in mind, we can’t dismiss Russia’s claims about Maidan being a Western-backed coup. Even if you don’t want to assume Russia’s side of the story is true, you’re making an additional leap by assuming the Western “conquest” narrative.

      • m532@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        14 hours ago

        No one “accused” RT of being state media here.

        They “accused” RT of being media (of course media is propaganda lol).

        Unless you think only state media can be propaganda, and corporate media can never ever be propaganda. In which case, you’d be an ancap. Bears > ancaps.