• jankforlife@lemmy.mlOP
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    2 days ago

    “Propaganda” according to? Western “media”? LMBO yeah, the empire NEVER lies! libs…

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        Yeah because wikipedia certainly isn’t influenced by CIA and western imperialist propaganda

        • WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.todayBanned from community
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          EVERY source is “influenced,” which is why it’s so important to diversify your sources to get a better picture of the full story. Wikipedia may not be perfect, but it does a hell of a job trying to be as impartial as is possible when humans are involved. If you still don’t trust them, that’s fine - but don’t trust your preferred side to give you the full story, either - or not try to slant the story towards propaganda to take advantage of confirmation bias for their own purposes.

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            And what if it’s state media? BBC is state media. All bourgeoisie media in the west all serve capital.

            This is your media

            How did they report on the genocide in Palestine?

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              It is hilarious that you appear to have a notion of RT not serving capital. Who controls capital in Russia?

              If you’re going to pretend to be an ‘enlightened centrist’ while uncritically parotting RT then you should go look in the mirror and remove your clown outfit before attempting to converse with adults.

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                There’s an obvious split between capitalist factions in Russia and the rest of the West.

                RT serves Russian capital, not Western capital. Western media serves Western capital, but not Russian capital. Duh?

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                  No shit, Sherlock? That was the entire point of how silly it is to take the word of Russia’s state media with regard to their war of conquest in Ukraine.

                  I don’t look to centrist, right-wing, or capital protective media outlets to learn about the genocide in Gaza either, because I have more than two brain cells to rub together.

                  ‘Serving capital’ isn’t some abstract strawman that can handwave away literally every criticism of any media outlets. It means something specifically, in the context of the motivations for the outlet.

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                    And yet you still assume that the narrative of “conquest” must be true, because of what you’ve been told by Western media.

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                If you’re going to pretend to be an ‘enlightened centrist’ while uncritically parotting RT then you should go look in the mirror and remove your clown outfit before attempting to converse with adults.

                If you were critical towards media then you wouldn’t be having such a kneejerk reaction to a Russian source while being completely silent towards the unbelievable amount of western media who are complicit in genocide. They are constantly posted everywhere in reddit or .world uncritically and you never see such a kneejerk reaction to those sources.

                Do some introspection and stop talking like a redditor.

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            No one “accused” RT of being state media here.

            They “accused” RT of being media (of course media is propaganda lol).

            Unless you think only state media can be propaganda, and corporate media can never ever be propaganda. In which case, you’d be an ancap. Bears > ancaps.